I recently did an interview for Le Point Q, it is a magazine with an online presence in France. You can see the article here http://lepointq.blogspot.fr/2018/01/interview-sable-renae.html?zx=2d07279e45c05688 (warnign if you translate the French to English some of what I said gets lost in that translation) So I am Posting the original version here before the Journalist’s conversion to French.
Interview Sable Renae
By Olivier J
First of all, it’s a great pleasure to interview the up and coming MILF actress.
- How did you become a courtesan?
Short story is it was a long standing bet.
I used to watch Cathouse when I lived in Tulsa. Worked a corporate job for the 6th largest bank in the world (side note hated it) well they closed the site and I was chewing through unemployment trying to figure out what I wanted to do next. As things happen on a Friday night I had the girls over for Girls night and to say the Margaritas were flowing is an understatement. I was walking back into the kitchen to get another pitcher of sweet sour goodness and as I was walking out of the living room one of the girls on the show (no I can’t remeber which one) made a comment regarding a ‘tea party’ fiasco. I said that if I worked at the ranches, I WOULD NEVER complain about anything. Kept walking back to the kitchen. My mistake…. the girls decided while I was running the blender that I was gonna get dared. I walked back into the living room, libations in hand and all 6 of my friends looked at me and said well why don’t you apply? My response was ‘they’ll never hire me…look at those girls, HELL LOOK AT AMY!!!!!! NO WAY IN A MILLION YEARS!!!! My friends all were like do it, Do It, DO IT!!!! Dare ya, Double Dog Dare Ya, YOU HAVEN’T GOT A HAIR ON YOUR ASS DARE YA!!!! My reply was if I ever get the chance you’re on.
Things moved forward as they always do and I found myself in Los Angeles having just shot my first film and Ron Jermey invited me to dinner at the Rainbow Room. We were sitting in a booth that had a picture of Dennis and Ron on the wall and I made mention of the dare to Ron. He offered to talk to Dennis about me and he told me there was a way to apply online. I thought about the offer and that DARE and fiqured WHAT THE HELL..in for a penny in for the whole pound. I sent off the email and photos and 3 days later had dates for my first tour.
Still learning and I REALLY have a long way to go till I’m even close to what some of these ladies are accomplishing but I am loving every day of it. It is the first time in my life where I look forward to what the day will bring.
- You became famous thanks to a picture taken with Mike Huckabee. Did your client treat you differently after that? Did you get more client thanks to that?
Mmmm…Mike Huckabee that is a story, one I will answer in a bit. Did my client treat me differently after that, not really, he is sweet and really with him it is more of companionship and mutual interests. I really didn’t get anymore clients after the photo in fact I think I may have lost a great deal of potential clients due to that photo.
- I read that you supported Mike Huckabee, despite him being against prostitution. Isn’t there a contradiction?
This is the first interview where I have been asked if I even supported Huckabee. First of all you have to understand I didn’t release that photo nor did I give any interviews about it. All of the articles about that photo were written WITHOUT my input.
Here is the truth. Up until the most recent US elections I have always been a Republican. I was raised in a Conservative household and for the most part I do have some Conservative leanings. However I have in the past crossed party lines in my votng and I HAVE ALWAYS made my descisions based on the information I gather to make that very informed decision. My client knew that I was following the elections and the debates. He also knew that I make very informed decisions and follow politics, it is a common interest we both share. He asked if I would be willing to accomany him to that rally as his guest (and Yes it was a paid date). I had never been to something like that and Although I DID NOT and Still DO NOT agree with Huckabee or his positions I agreed to the date. I am always open to having my mind changed by someone else, by the same token I beleive that one problem with Politicians is they NEVER talk to the people, especially Sex Workers, about why we do what we do and what Laws would benefit us. It seemed like an interesting date so I agreed. Mr Huckaabee knew who I was and Where I worked because I told him so. He was still willing to allow the photo to be taken. My client was the one who gave the photo to Dennis and Dennis is the one who provided it to the media. For what purpose I still DO NOT know. What I do know is it really REALLY hurt me and my business. I have a strict personal policiy of protecting my clients and their privacy. The assumption was I was the one to release that photo when in reality It wasn’t me. It was my client. The contraditction in the entire episode seems to me to have been manufactured. I Did not and DO NOT agree with any of the Republican party’s standings with regard to a wide variety of political policies and I have actually changed my voter registration to reflect that I am now and Independent voter.
- In France, prostitution is illegal. What’s your opinion? Do you think legalizing prostitution with licenced courtesans, is a good thing? What’s the benefit for sex-workers?
Making prostitution legal is a tough question. Legalization VS Decriminalization? As a Legal And Licensed prostitue I have an extremly high amount of overhead. Taking the daily operating expenses out of the equation…i.e. rent untilities and supplies. I have to have medical tests weekly. Those are out of pocket, same can be counted to keep my license because that must be renewed regularly. There are also expenses that come straight off the top of my earnings. There is the brothel license it’s self, as well as insurance and a bond. These expenses are a large part of the reason why seeing a licensed provider can be more expensive than seeing an illegal provider. However since I DO NOT have to worry about Law Enforcement I bring a high degree of guarantees to the table that my illegal counter parts cannot provide. I am not sure if Decriminalization will provide those same assurances. Contrary wise By being Legal it allows for a small handfull of people involved to make a great deal of money for very little effort on their part. It is an interesting case study.
- Feminists, in France, are furiously against prostitution. They say it’s a way for male to dominate female, economically and sexually. What’s your opinion?
LOL…I am a feminist. Have been since I was in College. I have heard the arguments about it allows men to dominate women econimically and sexually. In doing this the real answer to that position from me is how? My Rates are set by me. I can say NO and at anytime. I can refuse to refund monies. If during the “party” the negotiated activities or in this case non-negotiated activities are violated I can and will terminate the Party and refuse to refund the money. I have Ultimate control over evrything in this senario. I CAN say NO. In any other job the employee cannot always say no. The boss says you are working overtime, sure you can say no, but you may lose your job. The boss says, you are going to do something that may not be in your job description ,you can say no but you may lose your job. If I say NO, worst thing that happens is I DON’T bookthe party, so I DON’T get paid. Not all money is good money and in this enviroment I DO NOT have to justify why I said no. I just simply say no. As a feminist I beleive that women are just as capable as men in most if not all things. That being said I am resposible to MYSELF, to that which makes ME happy and fulfilled. I am NOT subjugated in any way in my current chosen profession. I am fulfilled and I am happy. In so many ways that I never was in traditional jobs and careers. I can express my Feminism to it’s full extent in my current profession and I like that.
- You also did scenes for the adult industry. The general public makes no difference between prostitutes and adult performers. Can you tell us the difference?
What is the difference between prostitues and Adult performers? That is a simple and by the same token complicated answer. Although a lot of the testing and activities for both fields are the same, there are some significant differences. On a film set you have a lot of stop and starts and not only do you have your co-star in the scene, you also have a LOT of other folks on set that are controlling the action. Plus because everything on set has to “be seen” on camera the positions are not actually natural. They look natural on the screen but BELEIVE me they aren’t. Most prostitues only do one on one sessions. They don’t have the lights, the camera, the additional people and they certainly DO NOT engage in the positioning that must be done on a film set. Beleive me if you have ever been on a set you won’t ever watch an adult film the same again.
- What’s you best memory in front of the camera? Was it with Nina Hartley?
I actually have 2 favorite memories to date in front of the camera, and yes one of them was with Nina.
The first favorite memory was with Jay Crew… I walked out of the dressing area and was introduced to Jay and I was like a kid in the candy store. I clapped my hands together and giggled. And said “perfect a silver fox….I LOVE silver foxes”. He and I had a few minutes to talk before the start of filming and we found a perfect chemistry. When the scene started it was amazing, the chemistry just ignited. It was very organic and extremly hot. Afterwards the producer was beaming and declared that we caught lightening in a bottle.
The other, which of course, was with Nina, actually did not take place on camera. It happened before film started rolling. You have to understand that sometimes the technical can weigh down the creative. On the set for “The Seduction of Nina Hartley” we had Nina Herself and 4 other women (myself included). All 4 of the ladies on set that day were hand picked by Nina herself. We all either knew each other, knew her, or wanted to know each other or her. Basically 5 women who like women and knew how to play with women. The production team (which were all men) were tying to hash out how the scene was going to be done and captured and it was stalling out the creative process. Nina just stood up told all of them that “You’re not dealing with a bunch of 20 somethings here. We all know each other, we all play with each other and we all know our job. So here is what we are going to do… You guys are going to turn on the lights, the sound , roll camera and get out of our way. We will give you what you want and need and have fun while we are doing it”. She was right ’cause that scene has been reviewed to be one of the best scenes of an all girl gangbang on film to date.
- Would you like to do more scenes? With which partner or which director?
I am still considered a “baby” pornstar. Would LOVE to do more scenes. Love being in front of the camera and I love what we get in the end. The list of partners I would love to appear with is VERY long so is the list for Directors.
- What would you never do with a client or in a scene?
My NO list is actually very very short but the ABSOLUTE NO is a Rape role play OR Rape scene. I beleive NO MEANS NO MEANS NO. Since one of the things I abhor about our current social beliefs is that once consent is given it cannot be revoked and that allows for things to horribly awry I refuse to encourage the behavior in any way.
- Finally, what are the next steps? What can we wish you for 2018?
The next steps……wow….well my next steps going forward are to continue to try to find ways to let the public know where I can be found and how to contact me. Unlike a lot of my fellow performers and quite a number of my fellow sex workers I am very easy to reach. My hope for this and for the Year of 2018 is to be able to buy a car and move into a slightly bigger place to live. Eventually I want to make enough money to build my own home and go back to school. Wish me luck.
- Finally, could you say a couple of words for your French fans? (even in English)
Trouvez votre bonheur…le faire ethiquement, faites-le-legalement, mais trouvez votre bonheur.